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Episode 1315 · Jul 7, 2026

BreeAnn Allred on Pelvic Health and Why Common Is Not Normal

BreeAnn Allred
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If you have ever been told that leaking urine after childbirth, painful periods, or back pain during pregnancy is just something you have to live with, this conversation is for you. On The Daily Mastermind, host George Wright III sits down with BreeAnn Allred, founder of Ilara Pelvic Health and one of Utah's earliest pelvic floor therapists, to challenge one of the most damaging assumptions in women's health: that because a symptom is common, it must be normal.

With 20 years of clinical experience and thousands of women helped, BreeAnn Allred has built her practice around a simple but powerful idea. Common and normal are not the same thing. George Wright III walks you through her story, her whole-body philosophy, and the practical steps you can take to advocate for your own healing.

Why Common Does Not Mean Normal

BreeAnn Allred started in physical therapy with a love for the medical field and a job in a spine clinic, where she treated many women dealing with low back pain during pregnancy and postpartum. That work pulled her toward pelvic health. Then, while pregnant with twins around 2009 and 2010, she began having her own issues despite her clinical background, and the experience reframed everything.

It's just because it's common to have back pain when you're pregnant doesn't mean that it's normal to have pre- back pain when you're pregnant. It means we've got dysfunction somewhere, and we can do something about it.

That distinction runs through the entire episode. Back pain, leaking urine, tailbone pain, and painful intimacy are common experiences, but each one signals a dysfunction that can be evaluated and treated rather than simply endured.

What the Pelvic Floor Actually Does

You may recognize pelvic symptoms without understanding the structure behind them. As BreeAnn Allred explains, the pelvic floor is a group of muscles that sits on the bottom of the pelvis, around the urethral, anal, and vaginal openings, forming something like a bowl or a hammock. It plays a major role in bowel and bladder function, sexual function, and pressure management inside the body, and it helps transfer force from one leg to the other.

Because it sits at the center of so much, she describes the pelvic floor as almost a central hub that connects your trunk to your lower half. That is why problems here can show up in places you would not expect, and why treating the symptom alone so often misses the real cause.

Symptoms You Do Not Have to Accept

A large part of BreeAnn Allred's mission is helping women recognize the issues they have quietly filed away as unavoidable. She points to urinary leakage after having a baby, which many women, including her own mother, accept as the price of motherhood. In her framing, any unwanted leakage of urine is incontinence, and it usually means the pelvic floor was never rehabbed appropriately.

The list of treatable issues goes further: tailbone pain, constipation that affects both men and women, certain fertility challenges, painful intimacy, pelvic pain with periods, and pressure in the vagina that can signal prolapse. She shares the example of a client who had seen two other physical therapists for deep hip pain, endured MRIs that came back negative, and finally found relief when the true source, a muscle deep in the hip accessed through the pelvic floor region, was identified and treated.

A Whole-Body, Prevention-First Philosophy

When BreeAnn Allred founded Ilara Pelvic Health, she wanted to break from clinics that treat one isolated symptom. Her approach is built on prevention and on looking at the entire body. She compares it to routine car maintenance: your car gets regular service, so why not catch problems in your body before they start?

That means preparing the body before big transitions, whether someone is planning to become sexually active or planning a pregnancy, and it means examining the feet, knees, hips, ribcage, and core to understand what is feeding into a dysfunction. Rather than sending you away because a problem sits just outside a narrow specialty, she looks at how all of it connects.

The Seasons of Healing Framework

Ilara's care process is organized around the moon and the roughly 28-day feminine cycle. The name itself reflects this: Ila means moonlight in Turkish, combined with ara to represent the light you bring, joined for a sense of wholeness. From there, BreeAnn Allred guides clients through four seasons of healing.

Winter is the calming and resting phase, allowing the initial healing and inflammatory process to run its course while gently waking muscles up. Spring brings in more strength and mobility work as the body reawakens. Summer builds real strength toward your specific goals, treating a recreational walker differently from a competitive weightlifter. Fall focuses on prevention and a genuine cure, giving your body enough buffer that a small setback does not bring the injury back.

Education, Stigma, and Starting the Conversation

For BreeAnn Allred, healing begins with education. Ilara offers one-on-one visits, workshops, and now podcasts so women can learn how to help their own bodies. She is candid about how often clients tell her they wish they had known sooner, and about the stigma that keeps women silent on symptoms like incontinence and menopausal changes that quietly affect intimacy and relationships.

Her antidote is conversation. She encourages women to be a little vulnerable, to talk with girlfriends and medical providers, and to share information, because the female body has historically been understudied and dismissed. George Wright III echoes this, noting that in business, personal life, and health alike, real change so often boils down to the courage to start a conversation.

Action Steps

  • Reframe your symptoms by asking whether something is truly normal or just common, and stop accepting discomfort as unavoidable.
  • Watch for early warning signs like any unwanted urine leakage, tailbone pain, painful intimacy, or pressure in the vagina, and seek a pelvic floor physical therapist sooner rather than later.
  • Support your baseline health with simple habits: eat your fruits and vegetables for fiber, drink your water, and stay consistently hydrated.
  • Protect your pelvic floor during exertion by not holding your breath; exhale with the effort when a movement or lift feels hard.
  • Start the conversation with a trusted friend or medical provider, and trust your instinct that you know when something is not right.

BreeAnn Allred leaves you with a message worth carrying: you know when something is wrong, so keep searching until you find the answers you need. Common is not normal, and with the right education and support, you do not have to settle for managing symptoms. You can go for complete healing and gain the tools to maintain it for good.

About the guest

BreeAnn Allred

BreeAnn Allred is a pelvic floor physical therapist with over 20 years of experience helping people overcome pelvic health conditions that are often misunderstood, ignored, or considered "normal." She is one of the earliest pelvic floor specialists in Utah and the founder of Aylara Pelvic Health, a boutique, cash-based physical therapy clinic focused on individualized, whole-person care. Through education, treatment, and advocacy, Bree is working to normalize conversations around pelvic health while empowering patients to regain confidence, comfort, and control of their bodies.

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TDM EP 1315- Healing at Your Core with Bree Allred [00:00:00] Bree Alred: I was pregnant with twins, and I started having my own issues and realized [00:00:05] I have this background knowledge, and I'm still having this many problems. Like, [00:00:10] why are we not talking about this? Why isn't there more of a conversation around this? [00:00:15] Why are we just accepting common as normal? And it's just because it's common to have [00:00:20] back pain when you're pregnant doesn't mean that it's normal to have pre- back pain when you're pregnant. It means we've got [00:00:25] dysfunction somewhere, and we can do something about it George Wright III: [00:00:30] Welcome back [00:00:35] to the podcast. George Wright III, your host, with your daily dose of inspiration, [00:00:40] motivation, and education. And I got a great topic today. I got somebody that I've gotten to know, and I wanted to try to get her on the [00:00:45] podcast. Her name's Breanne Allred. Breanne, how are you? Bree Alred: I'm doing great. Thanks for having me [00:00:50] today George Wright III: This is gonna be really good because on one hand, you are an expert in an [00:00:55] area I, I don't know much about, and on the other hand it's a very big topic for [00:01:00] individuals and whether they know it or not. So I'm gonna give everybody a little bit of an intro for you. So if your first [00:01:05] time listening, make sure that you're following the podcast. We've got some great content, and in the show notes today, I'm gonna be [00:01:10] dropping some stuff for you, so don't miss that. But Breanne Allred's the founder of Ilara [00:01:15] Pelvic Health and one of Utah's earliest pelvic floor therapists. She's got 20 years of [00:01:20] clinical experience. She's helped thousands of women overcome pelvic health, pregnancy, [00:01:25] postpartum challenges, all types of pelvic health conditions. And her mission [00:01:30] is to remove the stigma surrounding pelvic health by helping women understand kinda common [00:01:35] symptoms and that it's not something that they have to live with, these problems that they have. So she's [00:01:40] really changing the conversation, which is why I wanted to have her on and at the same time, I think she's empowering women to [00:01:45] regain their confidence and their quality of life. So I'm really glad to have you here Breanne [00:01:50] and I'd love it if you could start out by just telling individuals the obvious question, like what inspired [00:01:55] you to specialize in pelvic floor physical therapy? And then we can talk a little bit about [00:02:00] what that is. But you've done this for 20 years, so what made you decide to specialize in this? Bree Alred: Oh, [00:02:05] yeah. Physical therapy in general, I love the medical field. I don't like blood, so it was a good fit [00:02:10] from that standpoint. And then as I got into practice, I took a job in a spine [00:02:15] clinic, so specialized a little bit more in spine. And with spine came a lot of women that were [00:02:20] pregnant with low back pain or postpartum dealing with low back pain. And so that started my knowledge [00:02:25] a little bit more and my drive into pelvic floor. And then come 2000, [00:02:30] 2009, 2010, I was pregnant with twins, and I started having my [00:02:35] own issues and realized I have this background knowledge, and I'm still having [00:02:40] this many problems. Like, why are we not talking about this? Why isn't there more of a [00:02:45] conversation around this? Why are we just accepting common as normal? [00:02:50] And it's just because it's common to have back pain when you're pregnant doesn't mean that it's normal to [00:02:55] have pre- back pain when you're pregnant. It means we've got dysfunction somewhere, and we can do something about [00:03:00] it George Wright III: Yeah, it's interesting 'cause my daughter is about to have a baby next week and and she is just [00:03:05] dying, and I have twins, so I didn't have twins, but I have twins, so my my... It [00:03:10] is definitely an issue and back pain is just a symptom of one of these things, right? And so [00:03:15] you've helped thousands of women now over your career and I would love for you to tell [00:03:20] me something that, a lot of women with their health, they, they don't realize that there are [00:03:25] certain problems or symptoms that they don't have to live with. And so tell me, with having worked with [00:03:30] thousands of women, what are some misconceptions or some aha moments that you feel [00:03:35] like you've learned that women need to hear about? Bree Alred: Oh, yeah. The-- it's common to [00:03:40] leak urine after you've had a baby. Let's talk that one. My own mother was like, "Oh yeah, I [00:03:45] can't jump on the trampoline with you anymore." And it's like that is something we've accepted [00:03:50] as normal. It's not. It just means that the pelvic floor is not responding, and it's [00:03:55] not rehabbed appropriately afterwards. So there's that one. Tailbone pain can be [00:04:00] another big one. Constipation, like a big one that even males and females deal [00:04:05] with. And sometimes the pelvic floor, it's the door that lets things out, so [00:04:10] if it's not functioning great and it's staying closed, it can make having a bowel movement pretty [00:04:15] difficult. Fertility issues can be another one that we can help with which some people don't realize. [00:04:20] It's yeah, there's some fertility things that we can help with. Painful intimacy, so [00:04:25] the idea of oh, your first time's going to be painful, or it's okay if sex is painful, it's like [00:04:30] that is not normal at any point along the journey. George Wright III: There's something we'll talk [00:04:35] about in a little while, which is that there's this, embarrassment or, uncomfortable feelings [00:04:40] that people deal with. But before we... Or women deal with. But before we even do that, I think you're right. I [00:04:45] think what we wanna do is really identify problems that you think are normal [00:04:50] or things that you feel like you have no choice but to deal with. And I love that you [00:04:55] also you've got a different philosophy with- than traditional clinics. And you [00:05:00] founded Elara Pelvic Health with this different philosophy because it, it's, a [00:05:05] lot of medicine and health now is just treating a symptom, and if you don't feel like you can treat the [00:05:10] symptom. But it's not really the real problem. And so I'm curious, what is your [00:05:15] philosophy? And w- when you founded Elara, what is it that you were hoping to do [00:05:20] that's different than the traditional clinics that are out there that you would go and see your doctor for? Bree Alred: [00:05:25] Yeah. We are really big on prevention. So your car gets regular [00:05:30] maintenance, right? Why don't our bodies get regular maintenance when we're looking at things, maybe catching [00:05:35] problems hopefully even before they start? So let's talk about, I'm gonna become [00:05:40] sexually active. Let's talk about maybe doing some pre-work to make these a positive [00:05:45] experience. Or I'm planning to get pregnant. Let's do some strength training. Let's do some [00:05:50] work to help you realize what you need in your body. So we're really big on prevention. We're [00:05:55] also really big on looking at the whole body. I feel like oftentimes you go see-- We're [00:06:00] so specialized, so yes, I'm a pelvic floor, pelvic health specialist, but the pelvic [00:06:05] floor is almost a central hub of the body. It's what connects your trunk to your lower half, [00:06:10] right? And so it can have symptoms there, but we're also looking at the feet. We're looking at [00:06:15] the knees. We're looking at the hips. We're looking at your ribcage. We're looking at your core. What is all feeding [00:06:20] into this dysfunction? Versus you go see a knee doctor and it's "Oh I'm having issues in my foot," [00:06:25] and they're like I don't do that." George Wright III: Yeah. No, I love the philosophy that's overall, right? [00:06:30] The whole concept. And I-- it might be good time for you to just mention. So people for the first [00:06:35] time hearing it, and maybe it isn't the first time, but when you say pelvic floor, help me [00:06:40] to understand a little bit more what it is, what it does. Like why is this term so [00:06:45] important out- outside the obvious? L- let's talk about it specifically. Bree Alred: Yeah. So the pelvic floor [00:06:50] is a group of muscles that sits on the bottom of the pelvis. So we're thinking around [00:06:55] urethral, anal, vaginal openings, okay? So it's almost like a bowl or a hammock there, [00:07:00] and it plays big roles in bowel and bladder function, sexual [00:07:05] function pressure mitigation within our body. It also is a big [00:07:10] force transfer, gonna across from one leg to another. So it's a [00:07:15] really central hub where a lot of important things are controlled in our body George Wright III: And you [00:07:20] have said it a little bit, but I want you to kinda go deeper with this. I- it's not an [00:07:25] area-- It's an area where you have symptoms, but it's not something that you think about actually being able to [00:07:30] treat or do things with. When people are considering pelvic, I want you to really just help me to [00:07:35] understand what some additional things are they should be understanding. Because, [00:07:40] look, at the end of the day, a lot of symptoms that people, like you said, feel like they can't [00:07:45] do anything about, pain, pressure, discomfort, all those types of things, they're just what they're [00:07:50] aware of, but there are other things that are related to that. So could you kinda take us a little deeper with [00:07:55] that as well? Bree Alred: Clarify just a little bit more for me where it... George Wright III: just so when [00:08:00] you talk about pelvic floor, you just explained what it is and you've given a few things that people have to, [00:08:05] deal with. But give us some examples of clients that you work with that are experiencing those [00:08:10] problems, and they were- they wouldn't have thought are related to the pelvic floor, but maybe they were, [00:08:15] obviously where a lot of your treatment and stuff can work Bree Alred: Yeah, for sure. So I [00:08:20] had a client come in, they'd seen two other physical therapists previously for some deep hip [00:08:25] pain. And they were looking, it's "It's in the groin. It's like around my sit bone, like a bone that I [00:08:30] sit on. Do-- But it's like it's deep in my hip." And people had treated it [00:08:35] multiple times. They thought it was like a hamstring strain. They were like, "Oh, maybe it's a hip issue," and they've [00:08:40] gone through that, had MRIs, nothing was coming back positive. The pelvic floor integrates with the [00:08:45] hip, and so we were able to identify a muscle deep within the [00:08:50] hip that we accessed through the pelvic floor region, and we're able to... It's [00:08:55] "That is the cause of your problem there. It's deep hip, it's pelvic floor. It's how it integrates there [00:09:00] with some smaller hip rotators." And we were able to finally treat and be like, [00:09:05] "Oh my gosh, that's my pain." And it's yes, light bulb went off. We've got the right [00:09:10] thing. And using the same principles that a regular physical therapist do, we're looking at are [00:09:15] we stretching it? Are we normalizing muscle tension? Are we normalizing strength and function and how those [00:09:20] are integrating and absorbing George Wright III: and how, how frustrating can it be for a woman to go to her doctor and say, "I've, I've [00:09:25] got these issues," and they don't they don't know how to really diagnose or [00:09:30] even, work and physically rehab that to be able to help with the symptoms, right? Bree Alred: [00:09:35] Yep. George Wright III: What are some other examples of things that are common for what you work with at your [00:09:40] clinic? Bree Alred: Yeah, for sure. Let's talk pelvic pain with periods. That's another [00:09:45] one that we work with people of all ages where we're saying, "Okay [00:09:50] I'm missing work for three days in a month because I'm menstruating and the cramps are putting me [00:09:55] just down." A lot of times that is a interplay between what's going [00:10:00] on with our pelvic floor musculature, our abdominals, and our uterus. And so we're looking [00:10:05] at how can we calm the uterus? How can we calm the muscle responses that are happening with that? [00:10:10] And we can get people back to work. They're no longer missing days of work, and it was like, "Oh my [00:10:15] gosh, really? All I needed was these handful of tools," and it's yes, and then you can utilize them, and [00:10:20] all of a sudden it changes the traject- trajectory of what's happening in your body George Wright III: Wow. Do you have [00:10:25] over the years, I'm sure you have you created any type of framework or process you use to [00:10:30] when someone comes in to really identify the root cause of what they're dealing with? Or is it always [00:10:35] different? Is there a framework or process that you use when someone's come in to see you? Bree Alred: Yes, there [00:10:40] is a generalized framework. Like when people come in, we're gonna do an evaluation, and we're gonna be looking through [00:10:45] contributors from all of those different areas I was talking about, ribcage, core, hips, knees, [00:10:50] ankles, and the pelvic floor itself. But we'll also-- we really tell people as we're [00:10:55] taking them through a healing process that we're gonna go through several phases of that healing process as [00:11:00] well. We're really looking, we have certain tests, we've got different things that are leading us to say, "Hey, [00:11:05] we've got some asymmetries side to side. Maybe we've got some alignment issues. Maybe we've got [00:11:10] shock absorption issues. We're seeing tension. We're strength- seeing strength deficits." So [00:11:15] we're using all of that information. So and then we're saying, "Okay, first phase," we [00:11:20] go through the seasons. So Ilara really is built around the moon [00:11:25] because feminine energy, women cycle every 28 days. Do you know what I mean? The George Wright III: Wow, I love that. [00:11:30] Yeah, I didn't know that Bree Alred: Yeah, so Ila means moonlight in Turkish, and then we have [00:11:35] ara. So it's like the moonlight that we can bring, and the ara of your own light, and we combine that for wholeness, [00:11:40] which is really neat. But so our care process really focuses on the [00:11:45] seasons that the moon will usher in. You think of winter, what are we doing in winter? Winter, we're [00:11:50] hunkering down. We're calming things down. We're resting. We're doing things. We're [00:11:55] normalizing. Do you know what I mean? And helping through that initial healing process. So for some people, they do have an [00:12:00] injury, and we may be working in winter to okay, let's calm down, allow the [00:12:05] inflammatory process to do what it needs to do, but then start waking musculature up to help [00:12:10] support this healing process. Then we move into phase two, which is spring. What's starting to happen in [00:12:15] spring? Do you know what I mean? Things are waking up. Things are starting to grow, so we're gonna be bringing in more [00:12:20] strength. We're gonna be bringing in more mobility work. We're gonna be bringing that in. Once we hit summer, we're [00:12:25] really in our like, we're building strength. We're really pulling in the foundations for [00:12:30] what your body is needing to your desired activities that you wanna get back to. So I'm gonna treat people [00:12:35] differently if their goal is to walk recreationally [00:12:40] versus if their goal is to be a CrossFit weightlifter competitively, right? So we're [00:12:45] gonna we're gonna be grading that based on your desired goals and your desired activities that you wanna get [00:12:50] back to. And then we go a step further where we say into fall. So [00:12:55] in summer, we could really say, "Okay, things are treated." Like you're getting-- You're back to the activities [00:13:00] that you want to do. When we go to fall, we actually work for prevention and a [00:13:05] real cure that it's okay, we have now given you a lot of buffer room to where it's here's [00:13:10] your level of what you need to be doing, and we're gonna buffer you so that your abilities are beyond that.[00:13:15] So all of a sudden, something doesn't go great. Do you know what I mean? We've got a lot of wiggle room and a lot of [00:13:20] buffer so that this injury is not coming back. George Wright III: I love the philosophy you have because [00:13:25] I think especially when it comes to healing and health overall and things, a lot of times people are so short-term [00:13:30] minded. They're like, "I just wanna have a symptom relief," or whatever. But it really is a journey, right? It's-- [00:13:35] I've been heavy into a lot of optimization lately for men, right? And it, it really [00:13:40] is a journey. So I like how you do that, and it also helps to understand what phase you're [00:13:45] at. And I can tell and I've had a lot of, through some of our research for the show, people tell us you, you [00:13:50] have a very whole person but one-on-one approach when it comes to [00:13:55] long-term outcomes with, especially with the amount of people that you have. But you also talk about [00:14:00] healing begins with education and, really understanding your body [00:14:05] and those things for the first critical step. So that to me indicates that y- you're also [00:14:10] very very high on the idea of helping people to self-educate on what they need to do. What do you do [00:14:15] with individuals on that? 'Cause that is not something you typically hear at a clinic. It's let's come do therapy or do what [00:14:20] we're doing," but you're really heavily into education. So talk to me about that. Bree Alred: Yeah. We [00:14:25] have lots of platforms for education. We've got the one-on-one setting where we have people come in for [00:14:30] visits. We do workshops often. We're doing some more podcasts and getting different things out there to be [00:14:35] able to educate people on how they can help their body. And like our, one of our [00:14:40] biggest missions, and you said it earlier, is to empower individuals to live their best life [00:14:45] possible, right? George Wright III: Yeah, I love it. You're Bree Alred: everybody to do that George Wright III: Yeah, you're c- [00:14:50] you're launching your podcast. Healing From The Core, you guys gotta be watching out for that because this is gonna be an [00:14:55] amazing podcast. I'm curious, with the crazy busy schedule you have, we'll [00:15:00] take a second and talk about this, what made you decide to launch a podcast? [00:15:05] Other than the obvious that you just really wanna get more message out [00:15:10] there. Is that the core reason? Or what Bree Alred: It really is. It really is because there are [00:15:15] so many women, and we'll just-- And like little plugs, men have pelvic floors too, so they can have [00:15:20] dysfunction. So we also treat men. It's just with childbearing and [00:15:25] menopause and periods and things, women tend to have more dysfunction in this area. But I'm [00:15:30] really-- I'm like, there are so many people that I'm like, I can't tell you how many times in my clinic I'm [00:15:35] like, "If I'd only known this sooner. If I could have only come to see you. If I-- If my doctor would've [00:15:40] known that you were the person that I needed to see." And we're trying to just get right in people's [00:15:45] phones or computers so that it's like they have access to the knowledge that [00:15:50] it's like, "Oh my gosh, this is me. I need to be here." And so they can get the [00:15:55] help where they need as soon as possible so that we're not having years and years of dysfunction. George Wright III: Yeah, I [00:16:00] love it 'cause you have some amazing conversations coming up. People are gonna be able to learn from your podcast. [00:16:05] And I think you just hit something that I would love to have you comment a little more on, which is [00:16:10] there are symptoms that women should not ignore and [00:16:15] that could be something that can be very preventative if they start to notice them early on. So could [00:16:20] you talk maybe about some of those and what you meant by that? Bree Alred: Yeah, for sure. I'm like [00:16:25] really the-- one of the main obvious ones is if you're leaking urine at any point, [00:16:30] small, because we say urine leakage is any unwanted, do you know what I mean, [00:16:35] leakage of urine. That is incontinence. Versus we think of incontinence as these [00:16:40] women, do you know what I mean, like way old, in Depends. Do you know what I mean? It's a big George Wright III: Which is [00:16:45] also why it's probably embarrassing and things, and nervous topic, right? Bree Alred: Who goes around talking about [00:16:50] that they pee their pants? And people may joke about it, but it's like we don't all actually admit to it. George Wright III: [00:16:55] So that's a serious symptom though, that even as a little symptom, it's better to say something. [00:17:00] So that's important Bree Alred: Yeah, absolutely. Another thing, really going through menopause, [00:17:05] I can't tell you how many women start to struggle with so many symptoms around this time. [00:17:10] We get changes in the vaginal tissues that create dryness and pain, and we [00:17:15] it affects intimacy, it affects marriages, and there's so much [00:17:20] d- just encompassed George Wright III: ' cause this turns into relationship, communication mindset. [00:17:25] We look at this epidemic of, depression and anxiety and things, and those are all just, [00:17:30] manifestations of symptoms that might be occurring in another area, right? Bree Alred: Yes, [00:17:35] absolutely George Wright III: it is interesting that a lot of what's happening in your [00:17:40] day-to-day life may be indirectly or directly related to [00:17:45] some of these things, which is why I think even the podcast is a great topic. Are there other things that you're thinking [00:17:50] of that are symptoms they should be aware of? Bree Alred: Okay. Pressure in the vagina. [00:17:55] I know there's little things where there's a condition called prolapse where we have the bowel, [00:18:00] the bladder, or sometimes the uterus in women where it will fall into the [00:18:05] vaginal canal. People that have grown up on farms are very familiar with what prolapse is. They're like, "I've seen [00:18:10] this in animals often." And it's it can happen to us as women, and if we're starting to feel some [00:18:15] pressures in this area, it's very treatable early on, and if we wait till it's super severe, often will [00:18:20] require surgery for treatment. Like it goes beyond even what I can do George Wright III: Yeah. So [00:18:25] I'm... W- let's hit the obvious question here is if somebody's nervous or they're [00:18:30] embarrassed about something that they are now starting to notice, what do you say [00:18:35] to women? What can you say to them to really help them to understand, obviously [00:18:40] not so much that it's just, it's not just you, but h- how do you t- how do you talk to them to ease that [00:18:45] comfort and nervousness? Bree Alred: Yeah. And I'm pretty sure I've said it a million times already in our [00:18:50] conversation, right? But I always tell people, I'm like, "What is common," do you know what I mean, "is not always normal." [00:18:55] And so you start thinking for every complaint that you're having, I can [00:19:00] guarantee there's hundreds or thousands of other women having the same complaint, [00:19:05] but they're not talking about it. And we've also been told that it's like, "Oh, [00:19:10] that's just part of postpartum. That's just part of menopause. That's just part of," [00:19:15] do you know what I mean, "keep going, of being a woman." I even laugh. It's like there's a [00:19:20] barn up here in, in Cache Valley, Utah, where we're at, that on the back of it, it s- says, "Dr. [00:19:25] Pierce's favorite prescription, a women's tonic," right? And it was just one of those where it's like [00:19:30] hysteria. Do you know what I mean? All of these things just historically, like women have [00:19:35] been told they're crazy. And we're doing better as a medical system [00:19:40] at realizing like these women aren't crazy. There's actually science and [00:19:45] physiological changes underlying this, and it can be helped now. And [00:19:50] so let's start the conversation. Start talking. We all have girlfriends. Do you know what I mean? [00:19:55] And sometimes it's "Hey, have you ever and they're like, "Oh my gosh, yes, I have." Start those [00:20:00] conversations, and then all of a sudden there's somebody else that pipes in and says, "I saw so and so for this, [00:20:05] and it really helped," and it gets those conversations started. So some of it is just being a little bit [00:20:10] vulnerable. If nothing else, talking to your medical providers about them and [00:20:15] starting to, do you know what I mean, share podcasts, look at information online, because it's [00:20:20] starting to be researched way more, and they're realizing that it's like the female body is so [00:20:25] complex, and up to date, it really hasn't been studied because of such, [00:20:30] the the complexity. And now science is starting to say we can't ignore this [00:20:35] complexity anymore. Let's get these people help." George Wright III: Yeah, [00:20:40] I love, and even with the power of education and information and the internet and AI and everything now it- we're [00:20:45] learning more, we're growing more, solutions are happening more, but it always just boils down to, I li- I love how you [00:20:50] said it, starting a conversation. That, that is actually i- in my opinion, even in [00:20:55] every area of business, personal life, communication, I've noticed over the years, is it always [00:21:00] boils back to just a little courage to start a conversation. You don't have to, try to attack the [00:21:05] problem. You don't have to do these things. But having a conversation is where it all starts, and, that involves a little bit of [00:21:10] courage, a little bit of vulnerability, but it's also knowing that... That's why I love that you're doing [00:21:15] the podcast, 'cause conversations is where people can start to relate. But knowing that there are [00:21:20] answers out there. Do you have any particular suggestions of simple, healthy habits [00:21:25] that women can start doing right now to help with their pelvic floor as well as even [00:21:30] health in general? Bree Alred: So many. I'll stay within my realm a little bit George Wright III: All right. All Bree Alred: [00:21:35] sphere, and there's so many beyond that, right? But I would even just say from a health perspective, eat your [00:21:40] fruits and veggies. Like number one from male health perspective, you're getting fiber and good [00:21:45] nutrition, and drink your water. There you go. George Wright III: Hydration, no question. Got it. Yeah Bree Alred: yeah. [00:21:50] Yeah. So some real three simple, easy ones there. But from a pelvic floor [00:21:55] standpoint if I could give people advice, it's don't hold your breath. So much [00:22:00] downward pressure on your body, and then if you lift in addition to that, you're just [00:22:05] magnifying that force downward on your body. And so I always [00:22:10] tell tell my clients, I'm like, "Exhale with the effort, girl." "You've got this," right? It's like breathe [00:22:15] out wherever it's hard George Wright III: It's a nuance that you don't think about. I, it really surprises me that's one [00:22:20] of the things you came up with, don't hold your breath. But it's actually a it's actually a great statement because people know what you're [00:22:25] talking about, right? Yeah. Okay, if you could leave women... We've got a few more things I wanna kinda [00:22:30] ask you, but if you could leave women with a message about their health or confidence, and it was, like, one thing that you [00:22:35] just, you really felt was important for them or anybody listening to this to really get, [00:22:40] what would it be? Bree Alred: You know what's wrong with you [00:22:45] We know, d- and I think this is true for everyone, like [00:22:50] even if you've been told otherwise, like you know when something's not right, and keep searching [00:22:55] until you find the answers that you need. So trust that George Wright III: [00:23:00] Yeah, I agree. And you know what? I loved your common theme here, which is, don't [00:23:05] accept that pain or common is [00:23:10] normal, right? Is-- Because y- I say on on, on my podcast all the [00:23:15] time, it's never too late to start living the life you're meant to live. But that life requires you [00:23:20] to be aware and take action and do things because I love what you just said. You [00:23:25] know what's wrong. You really do. So tell everybody about the screening [00:23:30] protocol that you wanted to make available to listeners, because I thought that was important. I appreciate you doing that. Let's talk about that. Bree Alred: [00:23:35] Yeah. A lot of people are like, "How do I know if I should come see you?" And so we've got a little freebie that we'll [00:23:40] hand out that's a little questionnaire that's okay, if you mark more yes to three or more of the [00:23:45] questions, you need to be looking for a pelvic floor physical therapist, [00:23:50] and I would love to be your gal. But there are several of this, several of us [00:23:55] across, do you know what I mean? The nation and internationally as well. This is growing [00:24:00] field and people are passionate about it, and so I'm like, "Get help sooner than [00:24:05] later if you're answering yes to three or more of those George Wright III: Yeah, I love it. This, so this if [00:24:10] you're listening to this, the pelvic dys- dysfunction screening protocol. I think it's called COSYGNE. Is that what it's called? Bree Alred: The [00:24:15] cosine. Yep George Wright III: COSYGNE pelvic dysfunction screening protocol. So the idea here is this is [00:24:20] really tangible for you. You can answer some questions, and if you have three or more of these things that [00:24:25] present themselves, that you really should research this and get in- get involved. H- hit up Bre or someone [00:24:30] that you can connect with. And I'm gonna put a link in the show notes so that individuals can get [00:24:35] that and take that. I think it's very critical. Where's the best place for them to connect with you, Bre? Where's [00:24:40] the easiest place Bree Alred: Probably our website, ilarapelvichealth.com. There's so much great [00:24:45] information. We're doing lots of up-and-coming exciting things and growing our clinic, and we've [00:24:50] got great practitioners all that have genuinely personally been vetted and trained by me. [00:24:55] And we're excited by where we're going and getting some more virtual and online options for people [00:25:00] that aren't close as well. George Wright III: Yeah, that is great, and that's good to hear. And you guys really are growing and [00:25:05] expanding. There's everything from, education and opportunities and everything to be working with you, so I encourage you [00:25:10] guys to, to check that out. What I'll do Bre, is I'll put links in the show notes. In [00:25:15] fact guys, if you're listening to this, we have a cool new podcast that she's got coming out, so we'll put some [00:25:20] links to that as well as the link to the screening protocol. Take that quiz. And overall, I just [00:25:25] appreciate you coming down. This is not a topic that I would say I've normally done an interview on, but at the same [00:25:30] token, it's not a topic that's talked about, and yet there are thousands and [00:25:35] million-- there's millions of women that are having these struggles. So I really appreciate you opening up the [00:25:40] conversation, and I felt like that's why I wanted to have you here as well too. So is there anything else that you wanna mention before we end our [00:25:45] show? Bree Alred: It's a great question. I think we've [00:25:50] touched base on a lot of it, but I just really, I'm like, we are an important [00:25:55] part of our own health, and so I go back to that you know when something's wrong. [00:26:00] You know when you need to do something about it. And part of our [00:26:05] goal is to help with that knowing so that it's empowering you to be able to continue to [00:26:10] heal and to heal yourself and to have the tools to maintain that so that we're [00:26:15] really going for a cure. We're not going for you're gonna come back and see me three months from [00:26:20] now again, right? It's no, we want this to be like you have healed, and you now have the [00:26:25] tools to continue to grow and to continue to apply the principles in your life George Wright III: I love it. I love [00:26:30] it because it's not about just maintaining and treating some symptoms. It's really about complete [00:26:35] healing. I love that. So okay, guys, thanks for tuning in today. I hope you've learned something. I [00:26:40] hope it, at a minimum, it inspires you, gives you some courage to do something, or if you know someone or you [00:26:45] have someone that you know is dealing with, pain and discomfort that you'll do something about it. I think it's a good, it's a good [00:26:50] message for you to be aware of. So thanks for joining us today. I look forward to talking with you soon. Make sure you [00:26:55] share this show, and we'll talk with you soon. Once again, this is George Wright III. Have an amazing day [00:27:00] [00:27:05]

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George Wright III, host of The Daily Mastermind

George Wright III

George Wright III is an entrepreneur, investor, and the host of The Daily Mastermind. Over more than two decades he has founded and scaled several multimillion-dollar companies and built a renowned seminar business that put some of the world's biggest names and brands on stage. With 25+ years across marketing, sales, and executive leadership, he's made a career of turning bold ideas into results — and momentum into lasting growth.

Today his mission is singular: empower driven entrepreneurs everywhere to master their mindset, unlock their potential, and live their ultimate destiny. Through The Daily Mastermind, George shares the Prosperity Principles and strategies that help people create massive change — in their business and in their life.

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